What is the step-by-step process for converting a commercial building in from heating oil to natural gas in NYC?

#6 oil- Ban starts 7/1/2015

Everyone knows it’s a great time to switch to clean, efficient natural gas, and Con Edison is a great partner ready to help you with the supply feed line your building needs but there are two Major areas of preparation every building needs before one bolt is turned.

A) ConEd application,
B) Plumbing/ trades quotes for the completed job.
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A) Con Edison Application-

Before you submit an application for gas service, Con Ed encourages you to figure out the property’s internal conversion costs from a licensed professional like myself  (Jay Sullivan)  This reference guide provided by EDF, (environmental defense fund) may help you understand the process and assess your options and potential cost savings.

If you decide natural gas is right for you, Con Edison recommends that you have a licensed professional or qualified engineering firm submit your application for gas service on your behalf.

Your application requires:

  • Your property’s block and lot number
  • Your point-of-entry (POE)
  • Existing oil type (2, 4, or 6)
  • Your oil consumption from the previous 24 months
  • Existing, additional, and total gas load in cubic feet per hour (CFH)
  • The type of service you will require (firm, interruptible, or both)

After your application has been submitted, you will receive an acknowledgement letter from Con Ed, detailing the next steps in the process.  We are also sure to use the provided case number when making inquiries about your application.

Our step by step process for converting a commercial building in NYC from heating oil to natural gas.

B) Plumbing/ trades quotes for the completed job.

This is the information you need to figure out true costs, and calculate the return on your investment from the entire scope of work within your building.  Remember Con Ed only brings the gas supply line a couple feet in the building and gas fitters need to take care of the rest and plumbers make the upgrades or changes to your heating system.

1) Call gas company. I mentioned this in great detail above this section within (section A.)  First thing before you do anything else is call your current or potential gas provider.  Find out if gas is available in your area and how long it will take to get the service into your building.  The gas company will assign you and the building your calling about a representative, write this persons name & extension # down and keep it in a safe place. We will be calling this person many times throughout the job process.

2) Locate Professional Help from an energy consultant like myself.   800-524-4280 ask for Jay Sullivan.   My job as an energy consultant is to help you with every step of the process from engineering, heat loss calculations, equipment selection, to getting equipment & labor quotes as well as help you negotiate prices with contractors. 

3) The Meeting- vist 1- We meet and discuss your goals for the building, and we walk around the basement so I can check the current heating system and see what kind of piping is within the walls of the building.

3) Heat Loss-visit 2- Our NYSERDA certified engineers are experienced with commercial & high density buildings.  They perform a heat loss, which is a series of calculations that determine how many BTU’s of heat the building truly requires.   Remember all old boilers were over sized, and the new replacement will likely be (should be) a good deal smaller.

 A professional heat loss ensures you save as much money as
possible and that’s what this entire investment is about.  Do not cut corners by skipping a heat loss, it will cost you tens- to hundreds of thousands of dollars in over sized equipment and a life time of fuel wasted.  Not to mention the city will not (quickly) approve heating upgrades without the proper engineering and certification from a qualified NYSERDA member.

4) Equipment selection. From temporary heating systems, burner replacement options, complete new boiler installations, chimney liners, and high efficiency heating options means there is a mountain of information to go through.  At this step your energy consultant (Jay Sullivan) and the engineers will have created a “short list” of all the conventional and high efficiency options that are appropriate for you building and the goals you want to achieve, as well as organize the material for presentation.   We discuss the benefits and draw backs and rough prices so you can make an educated decision on the equipment you want.

5) Contractor walk through. It’s time to get the tradesmen in the building.  Plumbers,
pipe fitters, boiler builders, electricians, the chimney liner, oil tank cleaners, we need a ton of estimates in order to make sure we get the right prices on every aspect of the job.   The contracting companies chosen depends on the size and requirements of the jobs.  Bids are open to all qualified contractors but the high efficiency heating options (anything over 90+% efficient) we recommend specific qualified contractors we know and have worked with in the past.

High efficiency heating equipment has very specific installation requirements and the contractors we work on a regular basis have all have proven themselves.  For very large heating applications (10M+  BTU’s) we work with 3 of the biggest on site boiler manufactures in the greater NYC area.

6) Quotes submission.  After equipment selection I send a text message, email or call all the contractors, let them know the equipment we selected and tell them to submit quotes for the labor portion of the job, and my office begins fills with quotes.   Here I also call plumbing suppliers in and get quotes for the rough materials necessary for the job.   At this point I have multiple quotes for every single aspect of the oil to gas conversion.

7) Quote Presentation. I present you with all the quotes and information you need to make an educated decision, sit back and give you all the time you need to make an educated decision.   As well as answer any phone calls, text messages or emails you may have.

8, 9, 10—>   Now that we have the plan it’s time to begin!  You need an energy consultant with you for every step of the process from here on out to getting architects draw up blueprints, temporary heating system, DOT permits, EPA signatures, expediting services and choosing an escrow account & lawyers…..  Believe it, there is literally hundreds of hours that goes into into an oil-to-gas conversion for commercial buildings in NYC, and historic or “landmark” Manhattan buildings take even longer.

Who to call for a oil to gas conversion quote for a commercial building in the greater NYC area? Give me a call.   Jay Sullivan.
800-524-4280 (ex 4) or mr.waterheaters@yahoo.com

You’re not alone.  Close to 10,000 NYC Buildings Burn Heating Oil From the Bottom of the Barrel

I created this article just to meet you.  After you read it you should have realized a few things.  I fully understand the process and second, you should realize you need an energy consultant like me to help you with the process.

Painless oil to natural gas conversion help in NYC.
The only way to have a oil to gas conversion go as painless as possible it to locate a qualified energy consultant that has the proper team in place.   Getting an oil to gas conversion done in a timely manner for a building in New York City is to have a energy consultant like me help you.

I work as an independent energy consultant in-conjunction with an environmentally & ecologically minded engineering firm.  I am the “water heating guy” so if you have a steam, or hot water system and want a quote for a oil to gas conversion or any other large commercial burner upgrade, oil tank cleaning and inspecting all aspects of the heating system such as back flow preventer testing.   Jay Sullivan   800-524-4280

How long does the actual work on average takes for a oil to gas conversion?
Our contractors can get the actual work done from 2-3 months at the fastest case possible, 4-6 months on average, 6-12 months for very large projects and Landmark buildings can take a very long time.   The sooner you call me the better for you, the property owners and your tenets.

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Hopefully by step 7 you are on your last heating oil delivery.

Posted on April 5, 2012 by admin | Leave a comment

If you want Fast, Reliably Commercial Plumbing & Heating service in the greater NYC area.

Talk to the Sure Combustion heating experts.
800-524-4280

New York’s Premier Water Heating Experts!

We are factory service representatives for all the major boilers & water heaters and boilers found in New York City; Manhattan, Bronx, Queens County, White Plains, Westchester,

Some of these manufactures are but not limited too the following.  A.O. Smith, Baxi,  Bradford white, Burnham, Bock, Crown, Everhot, Eternal, Megastor, Munchkin, Navien, Noritz, Takagi, Laars, lochinvar, Thermaflow, Triangle, Rheem, Ruud,  SuperStor, State, Peerless, Quite Side Weil Mclain, Eastco Boilers, Rockill Boilers and more.

We aren’t factory repair reps for every manufacture on the market.  However we are factory repair and replacement reps for the vast majority of the boilers and water heaters commonly found in commercial buildings within the greater NYC area.  From simply boiler re-starts, to the largest steam boiler installations- we have it covered.

Posted on February 24, 2012 by admin | 3 Comments

Boiler- Heating system consultation services in NYC.
If your boiler or heating system isn’t working properly call us.
How it all starts…

Old steam boiler in Manhattan, there's roughly 10,000 boilers running on #6 heating oil like this in NYC. Call for replacement quote 800-524-4280

You have a heating system that is out dated or for one reason or another isn’t working correctly.
A) If you’re lucky the current system is many decades old and it’s a matter of choosing the correct system for your specific needs.  If the current boiler runs on #6, or #4 oil we need to talk about some things, if you have natural gas in the building that’s likely the direction to go, but the supply might not be large enough requiring a new gas supply line from ConEd.  If you’re a building owner or property manager you likely think it’s never a good time to spend a couple hundred thousand dollars to update a heating system.

However, the quicker you get the new system installed the faster you save money, faster it’s paid for, and faster you have more money in your pocket.  There simply is never a good reason to put off a new heating system that can help you save tens- t0 hundreds of thousands of dollars per year.

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B) However sometimes it’s much more complicated than that.  If you already spent a few hundred thousand on a new high efficient boiler and heating system, it’s only a few years old & it’s not working correctly you’re probably in panic mode.  For good reason, you quickly need to find a expert to figure out exactly what’s wrong with the unit or installation.  9 times out of 10 a problem with a high efficiency boiler is due to a poor or improper installation. When high efficiency systems are not installed properly they can fail, quickly die and the manufacture will void the warranty if they find a significant problem with the instillation.  If you need to find a plumbing company with the knowledge and experience to install and fix high efficiency water heating systems look no further.  800-524-4280

(Water Heating Consultation in Manhattan) This installation was only 4 years old and 2 of 3 H.E. Lochinvar boilers failed. Unfortunately we found many costly mistakes with the original installation that caused this. Without our information the building owner would have kept getting bad information & kept paying the same plumbers that he's been using for years that clearly to us had no business in installing or maintaining high efficiency boilers in the first place. (The unnecessary repairs cost more than 50k) This is YET another case where spending a little more with a more knowledgeable company would have saved a lot of money in the long run.

4 year old Lochinvar power fin boiler (not maintained) rotting out.

When we go consultation to evaluate a heating system our team meets with the property managers & building owners so everyone understands whats right and wrong with the current heating system.  We take notes, pictures, and videos during the meeting so we can take this info back to our offices and get started right away on the solutions to increase profitability.

High efficiency boilers and heating systems must be installed 100% exactly as the manufacture requires. In not following the plans specifically or cutting corners, on the installation or lack of additional materials required for the proper installation, you have a system that will fail decades faster than you and the manufacture intended.

Give us a call if you need expert help in New York City for anything to do with your boiler or water heater.  800-524-4280

Posted on February 21, 2012 by admin | 3 Comments

We service these Two Large Multi Section Commercial 3.5M BTU Weil Mclain Gas Boilers for a total or 7 Million BTU’s of water heating power.  This particular system is for a popular college in Manhattan, New York City.

2- 3.5M BTU gas boilers.

Maintaining heating systems of this size are what we do best.

commercial booster pump

1,000 gallon storage tank.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

—————————–Above is a 1,000 domestic storage tank providing roughly 600 dorm rooms and rest of building it’s hot water.
There is also a gas pressure booster. This heating system is on a roof of the building and requires a booster like many large commercial gas boilers.    We picked up this account by going out to a call on Christmas Eve when no other plumbing companies would even think about going.  The fix was easy and we charged the same rate as any other day of the week.

If you need Parts, Boiler Service, Boiler Repair, or a complete New Heating System in NYC Installation we have you covered.

Posted on February 21, 2012 by admin | 3 Comments

#6 heating oil accounts for 87% of all NYC air pollution, but only represents 1% of all buildings in the city. (Why it's being banned 7/1/15)

Ready to save tens of thousands per year on your building’s heating expenses?

Need a quote for changing your Manhattan buildings heating system from heating oil to natural gas?   Give us a call to schedule an appointment today.  800-524-4280

There are many ways to go when changing from an old heating system in New York City to something new.   Just a few things to think about…

-#6 oil is about to be outlawed,
-#4 oil only has another decade and half before its outlawed.
- Number 2 oil burns less BTU’s compared to #6 &#4.
- Natural gas is great but getting service into the building can take a while from ConEd.
-Over time ConEd will become increasingly backed up with service upgrades.
- Duel fuel systems are usually the way to go in the city.
- Conventional cast iron boilers even though not “high efficiency” can result in substantial energy savings just by running on natural gas.

Old cast iron steam boiler with a new, Oil Fired / Natural Gas (Duel fuel) burner. Providing many more years of service at near 30% fuel savings over oil alone.

- New multi section high(er) efficiency options such as Dunkirk boilers are a good direction to look at is space is a concern 
- High efficiency domestic water options choices vary from building size and application; from tankless boilers to outdoor sensors.

- Tax credits & rebates vary from building size to type of fuel being used to the scope of work being done. 

Problems with old Oil heating systems in NYC.

More buildings than anyone would care to admit are on the brink of total break down throughout new york city.  Why?  Replacing a oil fired boiler larger than a tractor trailer is no easy task, it means shutting down your current system and it means spending significant money on the gas service upgrade & new heating system. Building owners have been avoiding these expenses for decades.  It’s the way it is, but at a certain point these oil fired boilers are beyond repair.   In most cases that point is now, and even if they were repairable Mayor Bloomberg’s new combustion reduction initiatives are forcing building owners to update all heating systems on #6 heating fuel by 1230.

Natural gas service in place.

Is your current large commercial or high density housing’s oil fired heating system near failure status?  Does it run on number 6 heating oil?
Do you need a fast repair now?
Whatever the situation is give us a call 800-524-4280
24-7  Phone response by own of the owners.

Posted on February 9, 2012 by admin | 14 Comments

Don’t forget, the heart of your building is it’s heating system.
Treat it badly and just like your heart, neither will last as long as intended.

We provide regular service and maintenance plans for your buildings steam or hot water boiler heating system.

Anything can happen. Avoiding service & maintenance is nothing more than a misguided attempt to save money, and it can cost you many times more if that decision leads to a boiler that fail in the winter or takes a life on it’s way out. If you’re not sure when that last time your boiler was inspected by a professional it’s likely time to give us a call. 800-842-4280

Posted on November 9, 2011 by admin | 3 Comments

Fast, Professional, Expert Plumbing & Heating Service.  800-524-4280

Don’t delay, as the temperature drops our appointment book fills.  With so many old water heating systems we can not promise same day service for long.   Best wishes.

 

Posted on November 2, 2011 by admin | 19 Comments

Commercial water heater installers in New York city.

Posted on November 2, 2011 by admin

Commercial water heater installers in New York city.

Bringing in a new 220 gallon steam water heater.

Searching for local plumbers that install commercial water heater installers in nyc?
Need a local NYC plumber 0that offers next & same day water heating repair or installations for commercial water heaters?
Can’t afford to shut down you business for 1 day?   We can help. We offer next day & same day water heater installation service, and 24-7 emergency service for water heaters & boiler repairs throughout our service area of nyc.

Stop wasting time.  We are New York’s #1 water heater installers as well as high efficiency heating experts.
New York’s top rated certified Naien tankless installers & repairmen.

800-524-4280

Bronx, New York City.

We’re near the intersection of the Major Deegan Expressway, Bruckner Expressway & Robert F Kennedy Bridge which means we’re conveniently located for all city residents.   We’re less than an hour to most of Long Island,  Queens County, and West Chester / White Plains.


Who should I call if I have no heat? The answer is a plumber that cares about people and is willing to work long hours, nights & weekends.  We are these kinds of plumbers and we are more than willing to help you & your family in your most important time of need, during the winter in times when you have no heat or hot water.

Old commercial water heater being drained before removal.

What kinds of water heaters do we carry? All the major brands.  We carry Rheem, Ruud, A.O Smith, State, Bradford White, Megastor, Lauivneer, Peerless, Weil McClain, Superstor, HTP, Bock, Thermalflow- Everhot, Eternal, Navien, and all traditional tank type commercial water heaters.

Do we have every commercial water heater available? No, it’s impossible to have every water heater at any given time, especially when there are so many different brands, fuel types and BTU sizes of water heaters, but we do have many popular water heaters in stock or at our near by warehouse.  Anything we don’t have in stock we can usually get same or next day from our suppliers.   Keep in mind some water heaters & boilers are special order so don’t make the mistake of waiting for a leaking water heater to “get worse” before you call a plumber to  give you a quote on a repair or replacement.   If you are in the food industry you can’t even entertain the thought of opening your business without hot water, or closing for an couple days while you wait for a water heater to be delivered from Alabama.  If you own a restaurant in New York City and have a leaking water heater you better have us or another plumber check it out now, and find a suitable replacement now, before the current one dies completely.  New York City is challenging for all business owners, especially for us plumbers, parking trucks, elevators, parking tickets and every other thing you can imagine could cost us money to stay in business does.  Do yourself and talk about a replacement, before the unit needs to be replaced.  You want to avoid the costs associated with large emergency plumbing jobs like water heater and boilers in NYC and planing ahead of time does just that.

How can I be prepared for when my water heater or boiler dies? Meet with our plumbers now, lets figure out what a good replacement would be, agree on a price, then let us purchase the unit and store is at our facility.  Then when the time comes and your current water heater dies we are all ready for it’s replacement and we’ll have it at your residence or business as quickly as humanly possible.

How long should I wait to replace a leaking commercial water heater?  New water heaters are more efficient than old water heaters and boilers, so don’t think your saving money by putting off the replacement because you are likely going to waste a lot of money  If you likely gambling let it ride.    If the thought of closing your business for a couple days is giving you a pain in your chest replace it soon.  It will not fail at a “good time” because there is never a good time for a water heater to fail.

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Navien Sales in New York City.

If you want to buy a Navien in NYC there is only 1 place to go.

To our brand new 1 Stop NAVIEN store in the Bronx.

We sell Navien tankless water heaters and all the components that go with it in one store.
Pick it up or have us deliver the entire Navien heating package you need right to your job site or pick it up at our convenient location.  Our Navien heating packages contain everything you will need for a high end professional installation, minus piping. (ventilation, water & gas piping.)

That’s right.  We can send the entire package from the Unit, circulators, isolators valves, PRV’s, backflow preventers, manifolds, air separators, low water cut off, everything; and have it ready for you to pick up at our new convenient (large truck assessable) facility in the Bronx,  or we can deliver it anywhere  in the tri state area for a fee.

 

Call in an order or come in person and talk to our certified in house navien expert Eric.  We’re near the intersection of the Major Deegan Expressway, Bruckner Expressway & Robert F Kennedy Bridge which means we’re conveniently located for all city residents.   We’re less than an hour to Long Island,  Stain Island, While Plains New York, and Bergen county New Jersey too.  Eric will show you what a quality navien CH-240 looks like and will give you a run down of all the components you’ll need for a professional installation.

Want to see some professional Navien installations? No problem. Come to our new show room at (755 E 133st Bronx NY) and see 3 Navien’s in action!
All homeowners, building owners, engineers, contractors, and plumbers are welcome to visit our Navien show room 2 minutes from our navien store & warehouse.   Visiting our facilities is a worth while experience for all new york plumbers, homeowners, building developers, engineers, architects that want to see what the difference between a professional Navien CH-240 installation and pictures of some bad installation we have ran into.   We have 2 fully functioning (properly installed) Naviens on display, the CH-240 Combi & the NR-240 for public viewing.  They’re in use in our own building which means we believe in the Navien product line, and we’re saving big money on our heating bills as well as picked up some much needed storage space.   Our show room lets you a see a professional installation and our in house Navien expert Eric will help you learn why the Navien is the best heating system for New York City, and all medium to large buildings.   Drastic space  & energy savings these units provide makes it impossible not to consider for your next water heater or boiler replacement in Manhattan, Bronx, Brooklyn, West Chester, and Queens county.

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Not exactly sure what you would need for a new Navien installation? We do.  We are factory trained Navien professionals so we will walk you through what you need and why you need it over the phone or in person at our store.

Are you a plumber or builder in NYC and hate the hassle of driving around an entire day to find what you need for a new heating job? Yes we all hate that BS, so we did something about it.   Our complete Navien heating systems will save you 1 entire day of hassle which means faster installations and more profit in your pocket on each and every job.

Like the idea of installing a Navien but a litter nervous about problems, or repairs? Don’t worry at all, we are Navien factory trained professionals and can even fix your Navien if something goes wrong  if we can’t walk you through it.   That’s right.

Interested in learning how to install & repair Navien’s? In the spring we will be offering classes.

We’re finishing up the construction in our new Navien outlet super store in the Bronx give us a call for an appointment today!
Online Store Coming Soon!
Sorry but we can only sell Navien’s to licensed plumbers.

If you’re a plumber in the greater NYC area and interested in learning about the new Navien combi heating wall hung boilers and the full line of Navien’s tankless water heaters give us a call today.  Our business is helping your business.

Posted on November 2, 2011 by admin | 102 Comments

Navien Service & Repair.

Posted on October 31, 2011 by admin

We repair & service the complete Navien product line.   We hope yours is installed correctly but do you know if you received a professional installation or did your plumber cut important corners?  That is very important to know the difference because certain models such as the CH-240 combi boiler/ water heater are the most advanced high end wall hung boiler on the market and they have particular installation protocol that must be followed 100% accurately.  A poor installation will lead to excessive problems, multiple repair visits, and a unit that need more maintenance than necessary.  So did you get a professional installation from a qualified plumbing contractor or not?

A perfect twin navien CH-240 installation.

 

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